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4 years ago
  1. took a look at this
  2. may be power regulator
  3. or may be something downstream
  4. it turns off for a second, then turns off.
  5. hard to tell what is the problem.
  6. need to check all voltage rails when this is powered on.
  7. note that I found you can hit the power button to activate the vreg. but
  8. this might be dangerous to hit repeatedly.
  9. let's try replacing the vreg, as I want an excuse to use my hot air station
  10. it's possible someone just gave it too much power.
  11. https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair/could-i-repair-a-beaglebone-black-that-had-was-fried-by-the-wrong-adapter/
  12. hehe, they say don't bother fixing. Wow...
  13. Steps for this:
  14. Attempt replacement of vreg
  15. if that doesn't solve it, likely something downstream.
  16. connect to power rails, with PSU, and watch what heats up with iso alcohol.
  17. I have 4 or 5 of these beagles, so I only need to find it once. In fact, maybe
  18. I should just skip to the inserting the Power supply in. there are a few 0805
  19. caps that are relatively easy to tap into...
  20. The board files are allegro, and I don't run win but
  21. the schematic shows cap labels, so this is probably the best plan of attack.
  22. If I don't find anything heating up, then it would point to the power supply...
  23. Let's do that.
  24. EDIT: testing all 4 beagles
  25. 1 works, it appears.
  26. 1 turns on all 4 status leds, but no blinks.
  27. 2 have a brief led light on power reg, but then off. protection circuitry.
  28. I found 1 of them with a blown resistor on the ethernet shield to digital ground.
  29. it was a 0.1 ohm resistor.
  30. I found 2 of the 2 with brief led lights to have a cap (3.3v rail) at 12 ohms. The others
  31. are 400 ohms. This was mentioned on forum. Probably someone put 12v on the input, and blew the 10v
  32. caps... flawed design, i think.
  33. I'm going to remove those caps first. off to the hot air station
  34. i should buy some 10uf 0805. i only have through hole and 1uf 0805 (though in a project
  35. bag there might be one somewhere...)
  36. After replacing cap, there's still 12 and 5 ohms on those respectively.
  37. So it wasn't the caps, but something on the rail. Looks like the 3v3 rail is the only
  38. rail that has the short, per the other caps, didn't give me any unusual resistance, and
  39. also 3v3 is the one you would expect to be shorted (main v rail).
  40. can't find c16, which is on rtc. I need allegro to do layout searching
  41. 3v3 goes into
  42. main CPU (arctic)
  43. usb host tps2051
  44. SPI board id
  45. 24lc32
  46. lan adapter (3v3b)
  47. HDMI (3v3b)
  48. and some 74 logic.
  49. I think the cpu is the issue. Let's disconnect R14, and see if power rail boots.
  50. there's two inputs. one is where r14 is, another is on USB. Hopefully I don't
  51. have to track down usb input. don't have layout.
  52. removed R52, and R14, but it's still shorted.
  53. I believe the USB input to CPU is causing this. There aren't many other things it could be
  54. EDIT: looks like the 74 logic here is max 6.5 volts or so. could also be that.
  55. lets try to track down the short with the 6 digit dmm
  56. NOTE: there are two distinct 3v3 rails a and b
  57. 3v3B comes from TL5209
  58. that is enabled after 3v3A is turned on. (see notes in schematic updates)
  59. C20 on 3v3b looks to be 0.4K ohms, so OK.
  60. Must be 3v3a, which doesn't have much.
  61. Nice idea, to separate 3v3 rails.
  62. based on my tracking with the 6 ohm dmm
  63. i found the lowest resistance somewhere around 5.5ohms in between the cpu and the ddr
  64. the ddr is 3v3b, so it must be the cpu.
  65. let's remove hte cpu, and see if power rails start.
  66. removed CPU. first bga removal for me.
  67. And sucess. The low resistance on C16 is now 0.4K ohms. So the CPU is the weak point.
  68. I guess this means by design, of the bbb, I will be doing some hot air bga soldering.
  69. it must be gods will. (ti's will)
  70. I removed the second bga, but this time, I pulled some pads. Of course you can
  71. pull pads on a bga... May not be repairable, but lesson learned.